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Getting There

by scotthicken on June 12, 2014 at 1:16 am
Chapter: 23 - Cold Confrontation
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Discussion (51) ¬

  1. Cerulean Lion
    June 12, 2014, 2:08 am | # | Reply

    A work in progress, yes– but clearly progress is being made. 😀

  2. Tiger Tomcat
    June 12, 2014, 2:22 am | # | Reply

    Ok isn’t a lil too far north for Luska to be lurking?

  3. WindSinger
    June 12, 2014, 2:25 am | # | Reply

    Hey, Tiff saw her doing something badass and useful!!
    Is the Waking Dreamer causing the world to come to an end?!

    ;”P

  4. Grumblin
    June 12, 2014, 3:38 am | # | Reply

    heh.. Reverse draw, underhand swing, stab….. and *then* realise you’re holding a bloody big twohander in one hand, with gravity catching up…

    Well executed, and bloody funny 🙂

  5. Fairportfan
    June 12, 2014, 4:28 am | # | Reply

    How did she juggle that BFS to reverse her grip on the hilt?

    (As she grabs it, her thumb is on the side of her hand toward the pommel; when she stabs the whatsit, her thumb is toward the quillons.

  6. Jonathan Wint
    June 12, 2014, 5:45 am | # | Reply

    Girl got Skills sort of…. Still wonder what the deal is with tiffs Sisters wear they Erased from reality or was it some think else?

  7. Kouta
    June 12, 2014, 6:47 am | # | Reply

    @Fairportfan: Peony has good teachers.

  8. Mercurius
    June 12, 2014, 6:53 am | # | Reply

    Peonie is good at balancing things by way of defying gravity, after all…

  9. Guesticus
    June 12, 2014, 8:44 am | # | Reply

    Princess P-cups is either pissed about something, or she wants to get South where it’s warm (and she can ditch 5 layers of clothes) as soon as she can

  10. Chaucer59
    June 12, 2014, 8:50 am | # | Reply

    I just discovered Exiern last week. The initial few months were pretty badly edited, but the most recent team is doing a bang up job. Brilliant work. Just one thing I don’t get: what does “Exiern” mean? I’ve not seen it used anywhere within the story, and the “About” page doesn’t mention it either.

  11. Deanatay
    June 12, 2014, 8:59 am | # | Reply

    If Peonie can take ’em, obviously land-sharks are pushovers in this universe.

  12. Deanatay
    June 12, 2014, 9:00 am | # | Reply

    Sorry, we’d agreed, they’re ‘land sharktopods’

  13. ScottHicken
    June 12, 2014, 9:08 am | # | Reply

    @Chaucer59 – Welcome! So glad to hear you’re enjoying the comic!

    To be honest – I have no idea what “Exiern” means. Drowemos never shared that with me. I know the ORIGINAL original comics were called “The Land of Exiern” so my assumption is that it may just reference an overarching realm that perhaps those living inside of don’t have a term for – kind of like if our own Universe had a name we didn’t know about.

    But that’s just my personal thoughts on the matter.

  14. charles81
    June 12, 2014, 6:12 pm | # | Reply

    Yeah, she needs a rapier or something.

    Still, good to see that in their travels further on to the world’s edge and back, Neils has obviously been teaching her as requested.

    Who knows, Maybe Tiff will end up being the captured one at some point and need rescuing from Peonie.

  15. chemiclord
    June 12, 2014, 10:30 pm | # | Reply

    As Drowemos explained it to me, “Exiern” stands for “nExus InfERNal”, and this particular plane of existence is about as low as you can get without delving into the infernal planes.

    Exiern is part of the greater ether, the material planes. The Travelers chose that layer of the realm because it was easily manipulated by their power and farthest away from the higher planes where the Authorities resided.

  16. Zap Rowsdower
    June 13, 2014, 12:38 am | # | Reply

    Candygram!

  17. Chaucer59
    June 13, 2014, 1:30 am | # | Reply

    Thanks, chemiclord. You should add that to your “About” page.

  18. ManWitch
    June 13, 2014, 1:38 am | # | Reply

    What happened to the sisters convo…? Did I miss something?

  19. SGT Lewis
    June 13, 2014, 8:58 am | # | Reply

    Not bad. She may want to consider learning to use a spear. A well trained spearman can hold off a considerable amount of swordsmen for a long time. The spear may be much lighter than a sword and if it is broken, you now have two weapons.

  20. Guesticus
    June 13, 2014, 9:35 am | # | Reply

    ManWitch: we will just have to wait and see

  21. O.B Juan
    June 13, 2014, 9:50 am | # | Reply

    Sharktopus! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharktopus

  22. knite
    June 13, 2014, 9:55 am | # | Reply

    She can put it out with one hand, thrust with it, but it’s still too heavy for her to keep balance XD

  23. Matt [in Middletown]
    June 13, 2014, 4:04 pm | # | Reply

    “Monstergram!”
    *stabby, denied*

  24. Mogster
    June 13, 2014, 4:45 pm | # | Reply

    “I’m only a dolphin, ma’am.”

  25. Guesticus
    June 14, 2014, 9:03 am | # | Reply

    knite: momentum did the pull/stab(slash), then Princess P-cups eternal enemy (gravity) decided to play tug-a-sword

  26. Elfguy
    June 14, 2014, 10:05 am | # | Reply

    Poor Chevy Chase…stabbed in the nose before he could even say “Landshark!”

  27. Jonathan Wint
    June 15, 2014, 10:19 am | # | Reply

    @chemiclord so if Tiff tell someone to go to Hell all they need do is grab a shovel.. LOL

    As for Princess I vote a Steel Whip.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqMxcUokXQo

    I own one.. I used it fooling around.. I hit a brick.. The damage was like I used a gun… A Very BIG GUN!
    I found out later used right (or by me lucking out) the tip of the whip can be traveling at about twice the speed of sound.
    The Tips about 4 ounces of Temped STEEL…

    I rather be stabbed.

    Stopped fooling Around with it..

    Its light, small, easy to hide.
    And has been used in every culture on our Earth.

    It was the Weapon Samurai used if they had to fight in a no holds bar fight with a better swords master. They called it the Honor Weapon Kusari-fundo.

    There all different but all scary..

    Not to mention This IS Princess P-cups and there a Huge S!!t factor to the weapon..

  28. Jonathan Wint
    June 15, 2014, 10:27 am | # | Reply

    There a myth that such a whip even steal dose not do much damage D&D 1d2, there was no brick left.. twice the speed of sound 4 ounces of Tempered STEEL Blunt Trauma.. Think MACE and Full Plate will not stop that. We are talking 2h sword type damage..3D8..

  29. Matt [in Middletown]
    June 15, 2014, 12:29 pm | # | Reply

    You also need to figure in Psi damage from Princesss P cups jiggling vs sentient males.

  30. Jonathan Wint
    June 15, 2014, 1:52 pm | # | Reply

    @Matt this is true…

  31. Guesticus
    June 16, 2014, 9:46 am | # | Reply

    The *crack* you hear with a whip is a mini-sonic boom produced by the tip

    The reason why D&D only listed a whip as having 1d2 damage, is because the rules tended to be written by phallic-obsessed repressed-boys: if it’s not a sword, it’s not even really a weapon

  32. Jonathan Wint
    June 16, 2014, 10:37 am | # | Reply

    I saw the the video.. look at it.. I used one the Brick was dust… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jr6EphK01s
    CHAIN WHIP – Kung Fu’s Greatest Weapon this opinion not just his…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xeLG0Dg78E
    Shaolin Chain Whip (jiu jie bian)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whuBjeGxQig
    Watermelon vs Kung Fu ….. Chainwhip it cuts it in half.. Could not Find a video of one splitting or shattering Rock but trust me it does.

    Even Leather ones are used to kill Gators in Florida..Never Mind Snakes.

    It REALLY is a weapon.

    When people wear whipped as punishment a special short whip was used a hard cain really 3 feet long(to weaken the fluid dynamics).(called a flogger there bunch of types cat,Paddles,Slappers ect. All made to punish). (movies are full of crap) you would not survive 2 Well Placed blows from a Bull Whip. Never mind 40. And a Chain whip?? No you would die.Modern Bull Whip Have Weighted steel cores but even a Old fashioned one could easily kill you with one blow thats why Punishment whips are short..

    I take it Guesticus you were one of those phallic-obsessed repressed-boys Playing D&D? So was I,(Drow Girls yum) but I do collect Weapons and Whips are some of the most Dangerous in history. News Flash D&D not exactly KNOWN for it’s Technically Accuracy .. Sigh…

  33. Jonathan Wint
    June 16, 2014, 10:40 am | # | Reply

    Twice Speed of sound + four Ounces of steel = 1d2….
    What part of that sounds right to you???

    • Chaucer59
      June 16, 2014, 12:09 pm | # | Reply

      All of it. The whip concentrates all of it’s force on a relative tiny area. When said force strikes a solid surface like a metal breastplate or helm, it’s energy dissipates harmlessly as sound. A steel-tipped bullwhip won’t even dent a sheet of 16 ga. steel. A bullwhip is also highly situational. Not every strike will get that supersonic crack–especially in a melee. Sure, a bullwhip cracking right in your face can do some serious damage–blinding, maiming, possibly killing–but so can a dagger, and the dagger doesn’t require all that space. Put simply, you can have your bullwhip. I’ll take a bastard sword. You wouldn’t stand a chance.

  34. Elfguy
    June 16, 2014, 7:22 pm | # | Reply

    The real advantage to a whip is the +15 foot reach, not the damage.

  35. Jonathan Wint
    June 16, 2014, 8:49 pm | # | Reply

    And the Chain Whip not Dissipating, It weight is like 3 pounds Chaucer59, And the end is is 4 inches Long 1 inch metal spike(weighs about a 1/4 of a pound) and it will Dent 16 ga steel. Quite easily.

  36. Anony
    June 16, 2014, 11:11 pm | # | Reply

    Whips are good standby weapons. Light, useful as a rope in a pinch. Not so useful in heavy foliage or tight spaces. I’d take one and keep a nice long sword or axe handy too.

  37. Chaucer59
    June 17, 2014, 2:35 am | # | Reply

    The problem, Jonathan, is three-fold. First, you’re getting your whips confused. A bullwhip tip can exceed the speed of sound–and does so quite readily. That’s the “crack” of a bullwhip. The steel whip cannot. It can move pretty fast, but not the supersonic speed you’re claiming. Second, the steel whip, like the Japanese nunchaku, is only a powerful weapon on the hands of a master. Most of the idiots who buy these weapons online are more likely to injure themselves than an opponent. Third, the steel whip was never intended for use against an armored opponent.

  38. Jonathan Wint
    June 17, 2014, 8:10 am | # | Reply

    @Chaucer59 thats my point I was not aware of this ether till I was fooling around with it. And Stopped..It CRACKED and destroyed the brick.Japanese nunchaku, is only a powerful weapon on the hands of a master, I never said you could pick one up and not waster it. You can’t.

    But I have a real one, not a small Practice Chain I used it and saw it it can do.. Even if you can not master the Crack roll it still a 3 pound Flail..
    And it will Dent and crush 16 ga steel Helmet No problem.

    • Chaucer59
      June 17, 2014, 9:13 am | # | Reply

      I’ve handled both: the steel whips and numerous helmets in the 16 to 12 ga range. I’ll believe you can dent a helm when I see it. Incidentally, denying isn’t enough to damage the wearer.

      • Chaucer59
        June 17, 2014, 9:25 am | # | Reply

        Sorry, that was “denting isn’t enough.”

  39. Jonathan Wint
    June 17, 2014, 8:12 am | # | Reply

    Cracking with a steel whip is no wear as easy as with a leather. I only pulled it of like twice. But it a scary Weapon And very easy to hurt your self with mastering.

  40. Jonathan Wint
    June 17, 2014, 9:52 pm | # | Reply

    @Chaucer59 With respect it a 3 pound WEIGHT,Even if you were to discount Fluid Mechanics (which I do not) thats more than Enough to Dent a Helmet or Crack a Skull and even if the Helmet was fine like any Flail or mace the Energy still will transfer through helm,skull to your brain and bash it against your skull. It does not Dissipate with a crack… Hit a guy in full plate in the head with a 3 pound Mace and the Wearer Will be Damaged. Helm or no helm.. Its Why Maces and flails were used against plate helms. And If you used a Chain Whip are you really going to argue that its a bad light Weapon that can not really do any harm?

  41. Jonathan Wint
    June 17, 2014, 9:58 pm | # | Reply

    That is the heart of this Argument. Is a Chain whip A dangerous weapon or not? Because I just showed 3 videos of Experts that said it is the most dangerous Martial Art weapon there is both to master and to use on others. I used the thing and felt it. Its not a Toy.

    • Chaucer59
      June 17, 2014, 10:17 pm | # | Reply

      If either of those experts had demonstrated their weapons against an armored opponent, they might have a decent argument. In any case, the learning curve on those whips is brutal. Or if they had accomplished the whip-crack you claim to have done, possibly I would agree that the eeapon is as devastating as you claim. Most wielders are more danger to themselves than to others. Have you ever fought with a solid weapon, Wint? Not practiced in front of a mirror–fought. I have. I’ll stick to my katana.

  42. Jonathan Wint
    June 18, 2014, 9:51 am | # | Reply

    Yes I have been in real fights with Weapons. But not with the Steal Whip, And I do agree its Brutal, I nearly cracked a rib practicing. As for armored appointments I can not find a video ether way, I would love to see true test. ( I used a car door and bricks, as for whip crack I was only able to do twice. Once beginners luck the other a lot (careful) tries. I was able to do it with overhand Roll method. But the fluid Dynamics Apply. With a tapering whip its easy but it can be done with a Steel Whip. I checked with a buddy who gave me the whip and he could do it.

  43. Jonathan Wint
    June 18, 2014, 2:58 pm | # | Reply

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8QWB8Q-G1w Chain whip CRACKING!!!

    • Chaucer59
      June 18, 2014, 3:11 pm | # | Reply

      Okay. Interesting, but clearly those chain tips are no where near the three pounds you suggested, and the operators can’t aim the crack. Loud but ineffective. I’ll stick with swords and spears.

  44. Jonathan Wint
    June 18, 2014, 6:11 pm | # | Reply

    This one does! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcYVjxac2Kw I am so happy we had this fight! Chaucer59 got off my lazy a$$ and got a tutorial Guy said the links (1 inch thick) will actually Break off the end if its Wrong Type WELD!! Yes I could of hurt or killed myself trying to crack it with my whip. It why they avoid it with regular chain whip.. So this fight might just saved my life..LOL yep Wrong Weld on it (ie no weld open links) Lucky it did not fly apart.

    For the record Chaucer59 I respect your opinion.

  45. Jonathan Wint
    June 18, 2014, 6:22 pm | # | Reply

    And hear a moron like me that can die easy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YKEO-aZRJo Chainmail Bullwhip its clearly Cracking easy..

  46. Thisguy
    July 22, 2017, 11:39 pm | # | Reply

    Stab a land shark in the nose to confuse it
    Same with regular sharks.

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